Haynes Car Repair Manuals 1999 Jeep Wrangler
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MODS-Bump this to general if you like, not sure where it belongs, sorry. Don't like Chilton, my Haynes is curled up and seperated in 3 pieces, I hate pestering y'all for silly stuff (rather pester you for BIG stuff), and lastly, my hipper days of scrounging for 'free' pdfs is not something I want to do because of trust and rules and police and that type of thing. Just want a great book source. But what am I buying?
A few times here I've been told to see the FSM. Even though Chrysler, best I can tell, never used the F. For instance: But what I'm seeing is TWO manuals, with TWO different titles (it looks comprehensive enough), published by Chrysler, under the bundle package of CHERO/COMMANCHE/WRANGLER. Is this correct? Was I under the delusion there was just a big 93 YJ service manual, not 2 smaller books?
I guess I want what IRQ has.(you rock with the pictures IRQ) Even Mopar has a version. Lots of websites have versions of the factory.
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Not sure if they are improved over the originals. Any input appreciated. Have a good Monday evening. Just a guess. Jeep produced Factory Service Manuals for use by the dealership mechanics.
Once the copyright ran out, independent publishers copied them and digitized them. I have a FSM from Bishko books that covers 1987 and 1988 Wrangler. I also have a parts catalog that was sent to my by another poster on this forum that covers 1987 through 1990 Wrangler and Cherokee.
The FSM has the Jeep recommender procedures. I also use my Chiltons and Haynes manuals, that have some non-factory approved shortcuts. I usually refer to all three when thinking about preforming a repair or mod that I haven't done before or haven't done in a long time. I don't trust any of them 100%. I try to use common sense when the manuals don't agree with what I see on my Jeep or when they don't agree with one another. Good Luck, L.M. 'Jeep produced Factory Service Manuals for use by the dealership mechanics.
Once the copyright ran out, independent publishers copied them and digitized them.' That this info was not at my fingertips embarrasses me, but this explains a lot. Is your FSM the Chero/Commanche/YJ one? Or just 87 YJ? 'I have a FSM from Bishko books that covers 1987 and 1988 Wrangler.' Then this is the direction I will look.
Although Commanches rock and the only Chero that mattered was the big FSJ (IMHO!) I'd like just the Wrangler. For some sick reason I want to keep this as my daily driver for another 6-8 years. 'I also have a parts catalog that was sent to my by another poster on this forum that covers 1987 through 1990 Wrangler and Cherokee.' These are pretty common and are given away everywhere. I love them for the exploded diagrams even though the aren't repair manuals.
It helps to have one of these when getting/ordering the original (OEM) parts. The only problem I run into is the numbers are revised on a lot of AM parts these days. 'The FSM has the Jeep recommender procedures. I also use my Chiltons and Haynes manuals, that have some non-factory approved shortcuts. I usually refer to all three when thinking about preforming a repair or mod that I haven't done before or haven't done in a long time.' I guess that's my purpose for writing. I'd love to supplement the Haynes with something deeper/authoritative.
I, too, like to plot my projects out and think about them. Then come here when I'm out of answers! Thank you Lucky. I have some manuals below. You'll notice that the 1995 manual covers Cherokee and Wrangler.
The 2000 manual only covers the Cherokee. I believe that Jeep produced separate manuals when the vehicles switched to OBD II. If you want to buy your own go right on ahead. I can definitely tell you that the parts catalogs are public info, the powertrain diagnostic manual is out of print so it's more or less open copyright, and I believe the manuals I have are scanned from a Jeep manual, not a reproduced Bishko.
So same story. I have parts catalogs from around 87-2000 I believe. I keep the Bishko CD in the drive bay 24/7.
It does cover more than the Wrangler, but easy enough to sort thru. Checked Bishko out and whipped out wallet ready to buy: The smaller one exists for the 93: 'Body, Chassis & Electrical Service Manual' BUT NO SERVICE MANUAL FOR THE 93. AIN'T THAT A BITCH? I'm finding it that way everyFRIGGINGwhere.
Except for the $90 manual on ebay.I ain't got $90! If I had a service manual I wouldn't have to ask you all a stupid question like 'whats the difference between 93 and 94 and 95 (sahara) wranglers?' Nothing fundamental I know. Anyways thank you. Uh, go to the Morris 4x4 site in my link above and print out the sections you want for free. When they are trashed, reprint, for free. You kids make me feel old which is probably true since half a century on the planet is coming.I have no fear of digital technology (since every aspect of our lives is touched) except complete reliance on it.
I want the whole big enchilada at my fingertips: printed, binded, stitched or glued into the heavy stock cover and under the chassis with me. Maybe a comfort level thing. Of course, as you saw at ebay, that luxury is $90 so I'm passing. Don't get me wrong. I LOVE a pdf manual. Just not going to burn a $60 printer cartridge or two for it and store it in a binder.
Then I've surpassed the $90. So I heed your advice: I have external slave, wiper motor, rear main, brakes, and about 3 other projects pending. I will print the info incrementally!
At the end of the day I wanted to move way beyond my trusty Haynes. And thanks for all for the invaluable material. I've said it before in a post and I'll say it again.
I want to keep this as my daily driver/wilderness beast for another 6-8 years. (Unless the stork drops a TJ with 10,000 miles on it selling for $4,000 over my house.). First time I laid eyes on this in the last two days of hunting. Pouring over everything that everyone gave me access to, in this thread, the last two hours today, is like getting schooled in a good way. This s.t is invaluable and I wonder why I waited so long to find it and read it. The depth of what I needed to know just wasn't there with H or CH manuals and I'd rather burden this forum with most factors ruled out and well-researched than hurling generalities at you.
Although I do not expect my stupider questions to stop immediately. I'm now drinking a beer for each of you. Ive been collecting the Jeep service manuals over the years. I get them at garage sales, Craigslist, Ebay, and thrift stores. I pick them up when they are cheaper that going rate. Each year is different as far as how many manuals they made.
Some years have all the models in one book, some are YJ/XJ, and some years have multiple books on just one model. Most years have 4 books. Two main ones, Engine-chassis-body & Electrical-A/C-emissions are the primary references. Then there will be a Supplement(corrections/changes), and sometimes a TSB compendium Then, there are specials for new hardware, like the AX15 in the 1989 set. Then there were powertrain diagnostic manuals that had the procedures for using the DRB scan box to diagnose the OBD1 F.I. System Then there was a manual for the AW4 trans One for the TEVES anti-lock brakes 1987-88 was so new that they had a separate electrical troubleshooting workbook Then, there are separate books for each engine for rebuilding specs and procedures. One for feedback carbs.
One for the disconnect axle. Ive been collecting the Jeep service manuals over the years. I get them at garage sales, Craigslist, Ebay, and thrift stores. I pick them up when they are cheaper that going rate.
Each year is different as far as how many manuals they made. Some years have all the models in one book, some are YJ/XJ, and some years have multiple books on just one model. Most years have 4 books. Two main ones, Engine-chassis-body & Electrical-A/C-emissions are the primary references. Then there will be a Supplement(corrections/changes), and sometimes a TSB compendium Then, there are specials for new hardware, like the AX15 in the 1989 set.
Then there were powertrain diagnostic manuals that had the procedures for using the DRB scan box to diagnose the OBD1 F.I. System Then there was a manual for the AW4 trans One for the TEVES anti-lock brakes 1987-88 was so new that they had a separate electrical troubleshooting workbook Then, there are separate books for each engine for rebuilding specs and procedures. One for feedback carbs. One for the disconnect axle.